Dota 6.68 New Gold System - Aggression! 6.68 Preview #1
IceFrog has just made a new post about the DotA 6.68 preview today. On that chance, he introduces a new gold system for the upcoming map. In the current version, we will lose a certain amount of gold if our hero dies. This thing forces us to act carefully and think twice before trying to kill a hero with the risk of our own death and the cost of our gold. To overcome this problem, IceFrog has invented a new gold system.
The new gold system divides the gold into two parts:
Reliable Gold - Any bounty you get from hero kills or from the extra "aoe kill gold" bonus (feature from few patches ago) is added to your Reliable Gold pool.
Unreliable Gold - It is everything else (creep kills, neutrals, etc).
With the new system, we only lose the money from the Unreliable Gold pool when our hero dies. And when we're buying something, our Unreliable Gold will be used before our Reliable Gold. This new mechanism hopefully will encourage us to get the gold from hero kills rather than from creeps.
As the picture above shows, you can see that the Reliable Gold is placed on the scoreboard title (410 gold) while the total gold still remains at the old place (910 gold). From that info, you can count that the Unreliable Gold amount is 500.
Wow! This new concept is epic and I'm amazed how IceFrog can come up with such a thing. Of course, this experimental idea may be adjusted and tweaked over time depending on feedback and results after it is released. What do you think guys? Do you like this new concept? Share your thoughts here! :)
Update: Check out the Dota 6.68 Preview #2
OMG ICEFROG
ReplyDeleteYOU ARE GOD
new system? hope this gonna work fine
ReplyDeletenew system? hope this gonna work fine
ReplyDeleteTriple Kill!!! Cant wait for it!!! Please release it now!!!
ReplyDeleteso what ? What's the difference anyway ???
ReplyDeletenothin changed it's still the same . c'mon show us u can do better than this
it basically encourage more and more ganking as gold from ganking wouldn't be lost if you're dead.
ReplyDeletesay you managed to get 2000g from ganking and none from farming, you will retain 2000g if someone kills you. not to say its game-breaker, but it does have some impact in the game.
The Idea is some what disheartening to the noobs. I play Lan with a few friends and when we go online it's normally me carring us all, they don't normally get but 1 kill ever 5-6 deaths This new system would put a big damper on the people who only get the assist not the kill.
ReplyDeleteThis is really stupid and im judasshee from garena
ReplyDeletefrozfire2 : I think this is a very deputable system as no people ever played it yet using this system. People will whine , some people may like it , but whatever you do, dota sucks
ReplyDeleteThis is such a bad news for farmers like me , guess i will be ganking now, btw im kittyhawk79 =]
ReplyDeletethink its a good idea... it will speed up the game. here at our place DoTA betting is big but sometimes it takes an hour to finish the game with this new gold system it will promote more hero kills. hope it works out fine...
ReplyDeletewhen when when ........??!!?
ReplyDeletei hope got new ro3 =)
ReplyDeletethat greats
ReplyDeletei hope the map will come soon
I like this idea as a way of encouraging new players. I mean, for them, It must be very frustrating to lose all the money they have gotten after a while of playing. Besides, as It's already been said, this will make the game quicker.
ReplyDeleteStill, for those who say this is a bad idea, I think we should give it a try before giving our opinion :)
Idea for noobz
ReplyDeletemaybe the old system can be retained as a game mode. i prefer this new system but it'll please all the whiners
ReplyDeletei hope there will have 2 ro3..at sentinel and scourge side =D..
ReplyDeleteseem like icefrog started to work after world cup final. looking forward he can come up the map very fast :-)
ReplyDeletevery nice!
ReplyDeleteerm...agree with brrip.
ReplyDeleteold system can be retained as game mode.
this is fair for player to choose which mode to play.
nc won!!
ReplyDeletewill there also be a reliable gold income for supports/assists? i think this will promote more kill steals...
ReplyDeletehero assist should help you gain gold as well... just percentage of the gold.. its better than nothing
ReplyDeletePerhaps Roshan gold should be Reliable?
ReplyDeletehaha.. icefrog -a genius
ReplyDeleteNice Idea
ReplyDeletefor those saying that dota sucks..... you are just saying that it sucks because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY IT ....... NOOBS!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.playdota.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17506&d=1275962353
ReplyDeleteit says beta 39, dunno if its fake
maybe a certain amount of gold should be rewarded to the player that assisted a kill.
ReplyDeleteawesome idea hope it works
ReplyDeleteI dont understand how this would make support heroes ( people who mostly get assist) life harder. It is all the same, because without the new system, you would loose gold. With the new system, there is a chance that people will not loose gold( if they dont have any unreliable gold)
ReplyDeletenYc idea ICEFROG man YoU are GENIUS...Take your time to release the map...let the 6.68 be the best ever! :) xD
ReplyDeleteTHIS PROMOTES KS!!!!! -.-
ReplyDeletethis gold system is similar to some MMORPGs. Looking forward to 6.68.
ReplyDeletetechies would be imba......suicide ftw...literally..
ReplyDeleteagree with above.
ReplyDeletesuicide techies as much as you want, you won't loose the gold. ^^
@^.^
ReplyDeleteit's the rickroll song. XD
Perhaps instead of being automatically being in play, they could include it as an optional mode, like fast respawn or easy mode.
ReplyDeletegg icefrog:P i like the new gold sistem:X:X
ReplyDeletewhat about destroy fountain and get 50k?
ReplyDeletei think it will be fun!!
it is not good for those who can play without items like me.most of the NOOBS prefeer items first and later the batle.but give it a try :)
ReplyDeletefor my opinion, if a player that can kill other player easily, he can gain gold easily. kinda not fair for me.
ReplyDeleteI think the game will become imbalanced for lower skill levels in favor of the gank, while in higher tiers where farming/turtle strats are the norm it will have a tendency to strengthen the ganking teams slightly. Overall the game hasn't changed greatly either way, it will just get heroes like bloodseeker running around a bit more instead of ricing their radiance.
ReplyDeleteAll you noobs are saying "MORE KS", or "KILLER HEROES GET MORE MONEY, UNFAIR". True, but not true.
ReplyDeleteU get assist money, noobs. just sayin'.
"maybe a certain amount of gold should be rewarded to the player that assisted a kill."
ReplyDeleteUhh. Yeah. they already do.
this is murder
ReplyDeletewtf!
ReplyDeletei want try this map.c'mon,c'mon
ReplyDeleteu get 40 gold for assist, thats the aoe gold that icefrog mentions idiots. Learn the mechanics of the game before you whine and complain.
ReplyDeleteThis system is meant to make DotA more entertaining from a spectator view, and it is a good system. It also encourages team play, instead of all those noobs who farm 24/7 n dont help the team jack shit.
Most good players buy items at base before they die and loose it anyway, so this wont be a massive change, it'll just impliment a more exciting, more rambo environment in DotA which for all fans is a good thing
^ hes got a point
ReplyDeleteAnd a good point at that, I totally agree, this guy seems like a player who knows what he's doing.
ReplyDeleteim just gonna try this new system...if it works fine,,great....but i think im compatible with the old system.just focus on the maphackersss(losers in the game)
ReplyDeleteIts good..i totally agree with that...nice work...but i think it would be good if the player who does the most damage to kill a hero would have the kill....anti KS...Ü
ReplyDeletethis is awesome. i hope it will applied in dota 6.67 too ^^
ReplyDeletekill map hacks!!!!!
ReplyDeletehmm... I don't get it. Well, waiting dor the map :D
ReplyDeleteits simple really, you don't loose hero kill/assist gold when you die, rewarding gankers and team players and punishing ricers, not in a big way but it is a step in the right direction. It doesnt change much since u still lose ur farm gold first, so in the game it wont have much affect. Its nice to have the little fund in backup when youre saving for a big spender item.
ReplyDeleteAnd there really isn't such thing as 'ks' in compedetive DotA, a kill is a kill, it helpss your team and gives the other team headaches. If the system mentiond above a couple coments ago was to take place, then all the good carrys suffer, team finishers dont get anything. And the other way around, PA comes in and crits the whole team killing one and doing 50+ percent damage to the rest, then all of you come in, finish them off and PA gets a rampage? Stick with the way it is now, it makes more sense.
Thumbs up for the new gold system, hoping to see people running around more and taking bigger risks.
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haiya...
ReplyDeleteif like this who kill the most n pro kill so fast fat der..
eventhough the hero died...
the gold still there..
haiz..
what system la this...
wow,this system will make goblin techies become a real terrorist
ReplyDeleteAhahahahahahahahaha, ahahahahaha, etc, etc., etc., LOL, ROFLMAO!! It will make techies a real suicide speed bomb, I haven't though of that before! LOL!
ReplyDeletemap hackers.....make map hack detectable.... f*****g maphackers..!!!!!
ReplyDeleteGood news 4 techies & late heroes XD
ReplyDeleteWOW!! I hope this map will come soon . . . .XD
ReplyDeletecan anybody pls tell me the best skill and item build for harbinger? i'm starting to love that hero yet i always get pwned cuz i don't know what is the best items for him. can anybody help me pls???
ReplyDeleteThere would be a serious glitch in this. However, this does encourage kill stealing and "suicide" Goblin Techies. The good thing form is that you receive money for "aoe killing".
ReplyDeleteThe bad thing is that some heroes are actually used for neutrals. So this new "improvement has many glitches and but it can imrpove gameplay.
There should also be a mode which disables this "imrpovement".
Written by [Bk] from Bored Aussies.
P.S. If you are from BA you should look at my clan history. XD
P.P.S. Good Luck with trying to improve the game even more IceFrog. LoL
No one cares about idiots who rice neuts and no hes not gonna put this in a mode. Otherwise it wont get played.
ReplyDeleteit's gonna be the same... you will just use all your gold anyways...
ReplyDeletebut it kinda helps you save a little... especially the heroes who just revived and died in a short while... at least your money will not go to 0
MIRANA=OWNAGE=TRIPLE KILL=GODLIKE.. HARHARHAR
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I'd like to say that the flaming that goes on simply because a few players misunderstand DotA or simply do not like DotA is ridiculous. Both of you, it's just a game. Really.
ReplyDeleteAnd I personally believe that the change is lovely. Looking forward to it. And if it wouldn't get played, then is it really a good change? Think about it. Peace.
nonsense, blah3x
ReplyDeleteany better idea ?? it sucks
ReplyDelete@ [Bk]
ReplyDeleteWhat's the glitch mate?
You get the same amount of gold for killing, its just reliable now, it does noot promote ks, nor does 'ks' even exist in a compedetive game, stop playing pubs because theres always going to be a dickhead that tries to get the killer blow on the hero with the new gold system or without it. AOE gold is a massive advantage, you still wont see the supporters last hit but more teamwork and more synergy.
Tactics would change with this implimented, assign a carry, give him the kills, its a reward eitherway whoever gets the last hit because of the aoe gold being reliable as well.
Also icefrog does not want the game to be a neuting/jungling game at all, thats another reason for this system, more ganks, more kills, more enjoyment. Now you get reward for killing instead of neuting, and eitherway, buy your items before you die if u have even half a brain, that's what you are supposed to do before you die anyway
Please do not put this in a mode, thats going to take away the whole reason behind it, there is absolutley nothing bad about this so suck it up.
Good work icefrog, this is an improvment in the game, death to noob ricers who stay in neuts till lvl 16, come out and get godlike, no you arent the one to thank, your team id for 4v5 for that long and surviving without your help.
DotA is meant to be action packed, this mode will help it be played the way it was ment to be from the beginning, just accept it and get out of the fucking jungle
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ReplyDeletethis is bad. so stupid. :((
ReplyDeletethis isnt good.. so many players will pick gankers, whey wont pick heros like mortred, naix, etc..all farmers.. thou i dont really farm but loosing gold when u die is just fine.. what the fuck do you understand about bounty if you wont lose money after dying?!!
ReplyDeleteThat's so not true. This new system will force players either to play like a team or lose the game. The new system is sort of a 'credit of the team' thing, I like it.
ReplyDeleteAnd all the shit _matiC-3 said :)))
ReplyDeleteit's pretty good i hope it works fine
ReplyDeletei think the new Gold System would be a problem O.O
ReplyDeleteim pretty sure that alot of ppl will complain about it.. but nweis. hopefully not.. would rather try something new. zzzzzZZzzz.
huh, pls someone tell me more simple and make me understand :) ty
ReplyDeletethere will be lots of killstealing....
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