Earth Shaker - Raigor Guide to Jungling (What??!)
Earth Shaker - Raigor Guide to Jungling. Yes, you read it right, Raigor is jungling! This unconventional way is introduced by Shuang Er on Dota-Allstars forums and still rarely used on public. If you're doing it right, you can full deny the creeps wave each time without giving any experience and outlevel your opponent. Please note that on certain leagues, this maybe illegal, so check your rule before try this technique :)
Benefits
- If done correctly, 1-2 wave will denied completely from enemies
- You can make the enemy under leveled
- Gain fast experience and gold
- Your friend on the bottom line will out level your enemies
Requirement
- Heroes that can defend the bottom tower well (Axe is a good one)
- Or, you can have 2 heroes on the bottom line
- Good timing on blocking and pulling the creeps
- Ability to last hit properly
Ok, choose Earth Shaker and buy some replenish items. My starting items are Ring of Protection, 4 clarity and 2 sets of tangoes.
1) ES is positioned on the cliff behind the 2nd bot sentinel tower
2) Fissure is cast before creeps spawn (0:28 - then every 30 seconds after)
3) Creeps are redirected and takes the route between sentinel mid towers and the 2 sentinel neutral camps - then heads into the middle off the sentinel forest - passing very close to the central high-tier camp and the top camp on the left.
Ok, now the choice is yours. I usually pull the high tier creeps like the above picture and then continued with top-right camp. And then pulled the bottom creeps. After the high tier creep respawn, i repeat the 1st and 2nd step. This is a lot easier than the original guide from below (but maybe less effective) You can choose which fit you better.
4) Then aggro and drag camps which are on route of your incoming creeps. First is the most top-right hand side camp.
5) A tango is used on the trees lining the bottom camp, opening a route from the pullable camp to the top camp. creeps from first wave should be routed by a combined attack from both camps.
6) Get ready to pull the bottom sent camp between 1;15-1;17; i personally judge it from the minimap - the box over the hero is exactly 45 degrees to the incoming creeps - do take note pull 3-4 seconds early if you get the demonspawn satyrs.
7) If the pull is successful take note off the hp off creeps and aggro the top camp to come down;you should optimally arrive with the top camp on your tail just as the bottom camp is nearly finished or just dead, allowing your creeps to follow them back.
8) If pulled correctly; creeps would head to the top camp - when top camp is killed off as well; you should have some healthy levels and the majority of 2 full creep waves denied.
Please note that this must be done on Sentinel side. But if you want to find a way for Scourge side, feel free to try it. Of course there's a lot of better jungle out there like Enigma (the best one at the moment), Chen or Axe. But using Earth Shaker for jungling is rather fun and offer something new ;p
Warning!
Better you tried this on single game beforehand, because it needs some timing precision and practice to do this well. If you screw up, you will end under leveled and high possibility on getting flamed..
Benefits
- If done correctly, 1-2 wave will denied completely from enemies
- You can make the enemy under leveled
- Gain fast experience and gold
- Your friend on the bottom line will out level your enemies
Requirement
- Heroes that can defend the bottom tower well (Axe is a good one)
- Or, you can have 2 heroes on the bottom line
- Good timing on blocking and pulling the creeps
- Ability to last hit properly
Ok, choose Earth Shaker and buy some replenish items. My starting items are Ring of Protection, 4 clarity and 2 sets of tangoes.
1) ES is positioned on the cliff behind the 2nd bot sentinel tower
2) Fissure is cast before creeps spawn (0:28 - then every 30 seconds after)
3) Creeps are redirected and takes the route between sentinel mid towers and the 2 sentinel neutral camps - then heads into the middle off the sentinel forest - passing very close to the central high-tier camp and the top camp on the left.
Ok, now the choice is yours. I usually pull the high tier creeps like the above picture and then continued with top-right camp. And then pulled the bottom creeps. After the high tier creep respawn, i repeat the 1st and 2nd step. This is a lot easier than the original guide from below (but maybe less effective) You can choose which fit you better.
4) Then aggro and drag camps which are on route of your incoming creeps. First is the most top-right hand side camp.
5) A tango is used on the trees lining the bottom camp, opening a route from the pullable camp to the top camp. creeps from first wave should be routed by a combined attack from both camps.
6) Get ready to pull the bottom sent camp between 1;15-1;17; i personally judge it from the minimap - the box over the hero is exactly 45 degrees to the incoming creeps - do take note pull 3-4 seconds early if you get the demonspawn satyrs.
7) If the pull is successful take note off the hp off creeps and aggro the top camp to come down;you should optimally arrive with the top camp on your tail just as the bottom camp is nearly finished or just dead, allowing your creeps to follow them back.
8) If pulled correctly; creeps would head to the top camp - when top camp is killed off as well; you should have some healthy levels and the majority of 2 full creep waves denied.
Please note that this must be done on Sentinel side. But if you want to find a way for Scourge side, feel free to try it. Of course there's a lot of better jungle out there like Enigma (the best one at the moment), Chen or Axe. But using Earth Shaker for jungling is rather fun and offer something new ;p
Warning!
Better you tried this on single game beforehand, because it needs some timing precision and practice to do this well. If you screw up, you will end under leveled and high possibility on getting flamed..
Excellent and interesting guide. First btw ;)
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ReplyDeletevery nice trick
Interesting Guide .
ReplyDeleteuseless, in competitive scene its not allowed to completely block creeps path with use of spells. in efficient and unnecessary
ReplyDeleteVery good, too bad it doesn't work on the latest version.
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ReplyDeleteWell it DOES work, be sure to use fissure at the rite time
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ReplyDelete@Fraeyr - That's the problem, i make this draft few weeks ago without saving the link (i forgot, only save the maker link). I've been spend a day yesterday to find the original thread, but i can't find it again. I'd really glad if somebody knew the original thread link..
ReplyDeleteI'm doing this before! but not as Killing the Neutral creeps but to block the sentinel creeps in bottom lane.
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here, the guide link
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ReplyDeleteIcefrog will release the site this week?!
1 of My expectations was right if that's true!
"icefrog is making the new community site instead of making dota"
> esequel said...
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> Is that true?!
> Icefrog will release the site >this week?!
>
> 1 of My expectations was right >if that's true!
> "icefrog is making the new >community site instead of making >dota"
that is not true, icefrog stated on his blog that he was without time to do the site because he was working on the Dota map, and he had recruited "Volutaries" to make the site.
he he is not making the site instead the map, and yesm the contributors are making the site, while he is making the map
Could you put the link to the:
ReplyDelete"Of course there's a lot of better jungle out there like Enigma (the best one at the moment), Chen or Axe"
I manage to using my own style jungle with Chen, Axe, Enchantress but not really Enigma. Kinda hard.
It will be appreciate if you post the link.
Thanks.
Don't bother too much with this. It borders on illegal in most inhouse and leagues. In pubs, bot lane will ragequit from the lack of experience or your ally at bot will ragequit from having no creeps.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting guide, I'll try to try this trick later on
ReplyDeleteWellwell. I agree with Jingu. In most of the cases this kind of action is forbidden, BUT not everywhere. it IS definetily a nice tactic to rip off your enemy, cause they will experience a HUGE lack of experience (uhhhh nice pun^^). AND you need a badass earlygamer like axe whos still can hanlde those creeps near the tower. it is very hard idd, but once your bottomlane partner is 3 levels above the others, youll definetily see how useful this technique can be! it is fun anyways. Just imagine the face of your enemies, when they watch the replay^^
ReplyDeleteits useless...why would you waste your fissure to pull these creeps all the way around, just creep pull your bottom creeps into your creep lane, then pull top, then pull the left side its the same thing just reverse order, allowed in leagues and saves your mana. go learn to creep pull the right way not this half ass lazy way :(
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earthshaker solo mid is BETTER...
ReplyDeleteFISSURE.. FISSURE.. FISSURE..
faster level gain & more gold
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ReplyDeleteearthshaker solo mid is BETTER...
ReplyDeleteFISSURE.. FISSURE.. FISSURE..
faster level gain & more gold
Very interesting guide, I'll try to try this trick later on
ReplyDeleteLink to original thread please?
ReplyDeleteuseless, in competitive scene its not allowed to completely block creeps path with use of spells. in efficient and unnecessary
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