Dota 6.60 Beta 54 Map - Dota-Allstars 6.60 Beta 54

Awesome, finally leveler removed.

yeah. leveler sucked

Can you help me with ghost form from Ghost Scepter?
I do it next to a tower that targets me and hits me, and upon cast the tower ignores me.

Is it like you cant been seen even with truesight during ghost form?

I tried that with the new Tauren many times, every time the same result.

Quelling Blade has now an active ability: Tree Chop.

Ghost Scepter makes you ethereal, i.e, you can't be targeted with physical abilities and attacks.

an anonymous guy put the possible terrains in the last post in case somebody missed it:
-terrain default
-terrain snow
-terrain city1
-terrain city2
-terrain jungle
-terrain highlands
-terrain reddungeon
-terrain bluedungeon

Crystal can cast frost in the enemie fountain, i think other heroes can do it too

how come everytime i try to use the cheiftan and click his skills my wc freezes?

any wanna play beta in garena right now?

I'm the guy who posted the link for the beta 54 in the beta 46 comments part. You guys should credit flar3star from the 1st-hacks site.

wooohooooo!!!!!

He would have got the credit had he posted it here xD

Anyone notice changes yet to any other heroes? Did Razor/Chieftain/Batty's skills actually get descriptions now?

@Remni - Haven't check the others, but Tauren Chieftain skills still not have description yet. Usually this is the latest part added.

@anonymous - added credit to flar3star

Vengeful's Str growth improved (1.6/lvl -> 2.3/lvl)
Command Aura AoE increased (500 -> 900)
Howl of Terror now deals damage (25/50/75/100 for each level)
CM's new AoE spell damage nerfed (Now 230 at lvl 4)
Brilliance Aura nerfed from previous Beta (0.75/1.25/1.75/2.25 -> 0.5/1/1.5/2)

Autofire remade - its now single-target, no DoT anymore and it has a cooldown instead of a %-chance.

Batrider Ultimate now looks like the one in Beta 21 again (like Rhastas Shackels).

Is The GHOST ITEM useful for void chrono? ie when void use first skill to come to u then u your GHOST ITEM then void use chrono YOU CANNOT GET HIT?

secret shop, leragas the vile changed to something else. tinker cant rearm bkb anymore, its already there since beta 21.

who's CM?

pls help, my wc freezes whenever i try to open tauren's skills

CM - Crystal Maiden

CM = Crystal Maiden

Leveler is gay item for agi hero...
how can a simple item can knock 30% extra damage on tower...

Leveler sucks!

Does treant protector can still put the living armor to the tower?

Is The GHOST ITEM useful for void chrono? ie when void use first skill to come to u then u your GHOST ITEM then void use chrono YOU CANNOT GET HIT?You can't use items when you're under the Chronosphere. But if you use it right before he activates Chronosphere, yes, you cannot get hit.

Leveler is gay item for agi hero...
how can a simple item can knock 30% extra damage on tower...Leveler sucks!Leveler is no longer in the latest beta. So yes, IceFrog and the beta testers agree that it is too "gay" and that it "sucks".

wah... i think the last 6.60 beta is DotA Allstar6.60_660....

well anyway take your time icefrog... we will wait for the release... and well done for the latest changes you made...kinda like it...

what was lina's passive?

It was called ultimate. Then in beta 21 it was changed to boost and it gave her movespeed and attack speed when she casted a spell. Now it does the same thing but its called Fiery Soul.

I like how 6.60 is changing things. I can't wait for it to be released.

i just hope, 6.60 wont return to rice farmfest type of game. im happier with the gank-type of game ^_^

Well I'm really pleased with Razor right now. Seems like a good course of action for him now is going Shiva/Skadi on him. Shiva combos with his Pulse Field, and Skadi would just be great all around by boosting him on all ends, which is what this version of him needs. That and Skadi's Slow + Unst.Current/Ulti just makes him an awesome ganker now.

Quelling blade allows you to cut trees now :)

Dont know if its been mentioned but bristleback has been buffed.


3rd skill now has 250dmg threshold isntead of 300

now has 81 base int at level25 instead of 66, so his int gain has been buffed a little

I wonder if the Leveler is really gone, considering the blurred out icon that's on IceFrog's pic. Probably rebalanced for better gameplay, after all the idea of having AGI heroes farm to push while INT heroes do the damage and STR heroes do the initiating, is interesting to me. Or maybe, another item using the Leveler icon along with the bottom icon of the support vestment is something new.

-jakiro's auto fire got remkaed to liquid fire, from what ive tested its like tidebringer, enchanting ur attack every few secs (i think its 5 at lvl 4), it adds a debuff effect which reduces ur targeds attack speed and puts down a minor dot effect, works on towers

-stout shield price reduced to 250 and block changed: 60% for 20dmg (old was 40%/30dmg)

-new goblin shops now also sell slippers, all +6int/str/agy items, sobi mask, gloves of haste, quelling blade and talisman of evasion

ENIGMA IS ON THE SCOURGE SIDE NOW!

H! Everyone! I am a beta tester! This beta is old, the current beta icefrog submitted to me is 82 but don't expect me to share the changelogs! I'm here to give you a very good news! - 6.60 is sooner to be release than you expected! We are now on playtesting and finding bugs stage! So as icefrog mentioned on his blog that he will post updates about it when it's nearly finish, i think he will do that within these 5 days.

b sure to release it 5 days from now!! i dont trust till d day official 6.60 will b release!! i haven't downloaded any beta maps till now so pls if u r saying true pls im begging u, pls dont disappoint every gamer here and pls will u post or tell icefrog, his number avid fan is here in this blog..pls post it here first!!! pls.....pls....thank you!!!!

H! Everyone! I am a beta tester! This beta is old, the current beta icefrog submitted to me is 82 but don't expect me to share the changelogs! I'm here to give you a very good news! - 6.60 is sooner to be release than you expected! We are now on playtesting and finding bugs stage! So as icefrog mentioned on his blog that he will post updates about it when it's nearly finish, i think he will do that within these 5 days. Are you kidding ?

holy fuck beta 82? 6.60 has got to be the biggest changelog I've ever seen for this game. I mean, its going to be a buggy mess, but lets get that shit out already.

@will

holy fuck to you!! jaz w8 for the official map to come man...i told everybody!!! there will b many major changes when the 6.60 official map will come out..thats why im begging evrybody not to play beta maps on every net battle coz it'll be a diiferent map when it'll b coming out!!!

@raz44

Is this the first time your looking as something called beta maps?

@raz44


I'm not bitching about him releasing b/c of how many betas there are, I'm just antsy in general

@ ctrl-

yeah let him just roll w/it. he sure is awesome....

I have to say that the current Beta Map (54) wastes a lot of good models. The runner, the ogre lord and the wizard thingie could be put into Dota as heroes, not as NPCs/vendors. Hope Ice changes his mind.

Zeus is shop and hero. Riki is neutral and Hero. I see no bad thing about runner and ogre lord being heroes too.

nice 6.60
when will u relase it icefrog..
i think u just need story for them and its all good
i cant w8 to play it
pudge will be the most imba hero 100%
3x str in dmg when ulti
:)
and yes, + absorbing all dmg dealt to his hp (regain)
xD

obviously... the "mr. beta 82" is a fucking liar....

only nerds,virgins and retards,go to real life gogoogogo

@Demi:
If you watch higher level games, you'll notice that Pudge is never picked. Even in pubs, all Pudge can do is hope to get in some good hooks early game. Once late game comes he's outshined by most heroes. All he really has to contribute is a channeling 3 second melee stun.
So yeah, he needs a huge buff of some sort. Quelling Blade + Aghanims buff should do the trick. :)

obviously... the "mr. beta 82" is a fucking liar....That's a bit harsh, but I too would like to see some proof before I believe it.

seriously guys, i need help.
has anyone ever had problems trying to play the tauren cheiftan when you click to look open his skills? my wc creeps crashing

You shouldnt trust everybody !

I can't choose heroes from taverns with key-shortcut. In 6.59d it workd. But in 6.60 it didn't... new code for choose hero out of tavern?

They're probably re-editing those. Also, if you're using WarKeys, it certainly wont have the correct keys aligned anymore, since all the of heroes have been moved around.

@Anonymous May 14, 2009 5:22 AM


Sorry man, why is your computer crashing?
Maybe these guys know why

I don't think "mr. beta 82" is a liar, it's been so fucking long since Icefrog's been editing this map and I don't think it'll take any month longer though...

New passive, Warcry. Active AoE buff, all units around the Rogue Knight gain bonus armor and move speed. +8 armor and +10% MS at Level 4. Uses old God's Strength animation.

It's not a passive skill... 40s cd and 25 mana cost

As i told you before, i will not share anything for it will make 6.60 no longer a surprise even my name or screen name coz im afraid icefrog will kick me out. Just call me "mr. Beta 82" as they call me that way. I just post here to tell you the good news! Beta 54 have only less changes, the official will have 5x more the beta 54 have.

Hey is someone already notice that the secret shop was change in model, and rename it "Market Place"

"ENIGMA IS ON THE SCOURGE SIDE NOW"
- yeah he doesent fit att the sentinel side HAVING A FIEND ON THE GOOD SIDE haha




yeah it hink the mr.beta 82 is not liar becouse he wouldnt tell any change logs yet duh

http://www.torncity.com/register.php?XID=91599

More interesting and intriguing than MyBrute!

Can you give the link to download the beta 82???

beta.getdota.com

ERROR...
I couldn't register, the admin didn't allow any registration...

I guess i have to stop posting here. I just realize that telling when the official be released is also a violation to icefrog! And by just telling the beta version icefrog would know who did it bec. His choosing a beta tester who will test the map, actually he knows that im the one who posted the current beta version and warned me! I think im the only one choosen to test the map! So Pls. Forgive me icefrog i really enjoy helping you and i will not do it again!

hey mr. beta82.. i'll ask icefrog to kick you out of the team.. we cannot condone something like this :(


us testers, have spoken to each other and we think we knew who leaked it..that is if you're really one of us.

Umm...
I couldn't find the beta 82 in Google...
Maybe we could find it tomorrow...

Dota beta tester seem like a secret society
Much like the StoneCutters in the Simpsons
Do you guy has to pass a gruesome test to join?? Maybe "Perseverance of a thousand Dota games"??


P.S: It seem that the "Dota" word as a spelling error in this Dota blog appear very..... ironic

I'm disappointed with this little change in beta 54 :(

Seriously, 1 peek at the development is good enough; 3 just make me feel like I've already known 6.60 and honestly SAD.
Still I downloaded and spent like 5 mins for the new beta map and I'm sure now I wont even download anymore 6.59 beta.

P/S: "mr. beta84" is a joke but who cares.

@above - Well, actually i'm happy seing this new beta map is contain less changes and more balances. Because that's mean the map is nearly finish ;)

I think Invoker is going to get some really bad kicks in his ass for not being upgraded as he should be.Every melee carry can use quelling(except ursa and crixalis,the orb effects dont stack with it),every range can easily farm the aghanims,because it is obviously made from must-core items (point booster ftw),but Invoker after all these whinnings we made to both the forums AND the blog AND the e-mail ,has received only a minor buff to his Alacrity?And who gives a coin to aghanims as it does only upgrade 3 seconds his ultimate.he needs at least the mp regen we suggested,or in the worse scenario the status gain from leveling the orbs...sigh*,I guess it is not meant for Invoker to get to final stage of clan wars,is he :S


P.S. Mr beta84:oh mah gawd ,u rli ur thaut smart arend yu?I min,ho nous why u did dat!u must fil badas,rily badas.

OMG BETA 82 IS AVAILABLE!

where where ? where is it available ? can u post the LINK ? the LINK is all important here

Invoker was, is and forever shall be a worthless piece of crap whose sole purpose is to lag all players =.="

Omg, beta 82 is not available, stop spreading false informations.

Anyways! i don't care if you don't believe me!!! I will no longer post about 6.60 here or whatever! Icefrog emailed me this day with a subject "WARNING!" you know what it means!

Hey mr beta 82, are u beta testers???

nobody said beta 82 is available for you, its available for beta testes only.


dota-utilities claims he has beta 57, but i think its the sam e as beta 54 here, they just renamed cuz they stealt it from here.

of course the 57 is a fake, that moron even let the "Dota 6.60 Beta 54 Changes Summary." in the text that he copied from that (awesome) blog here

actually, lastest beta version is only a bit more than 70...

ancestral+ force self+ stomp = 1337
force+force+force = free blink dagger
force to cliff = 1337 escape
force enemy = 1337 hook
force ally = l337 chase

lol force staff will be a must item in my invent, xcept for carry XD

kael + aghanim = lol gaylord
in average 5 secs can use Chaos Meteor+Deafening Blast+EMP+Tornado = gg

You forgot BS Rupture + Force

@Remni
Like it will do some damage? The distance is not really far. Its better used for stun, or interrupting channeling spells.

Level 3 Rupture + Force does a LOT of damage. Especially if the enemy has moved a bit before stopping... now you can force him to move some more, for even more damage.
Plus if you have played BS, you'll know that the #1 counter for Rupture is to press H and then use TP. Now you can disable the TP and damage the hero at the same time!
Core item for BS, IMO.

ANOTHER CHANGE: -kickafk now needs only FIVE MINUTES to be enabled, LOVE IT!

"Invoker was, is and forever shall be a worthless piece of crap whose sole purpose is to lag all players =.=""

I laughted, A LOT

Force staff is still broken. You can shove enemy heroes into areas that they can't escape from. I know you can -unstuck, but forcing a player to do that is like a free 1 minute disable and deny of exp and gold. If a real beta tester is reading this, and it's not fixed yet, I suggest it be changed to work like bara's bash does when the target hits a wall (at least, the mechanics of how it stops the push.). As of now, it's easy to exploit it and get enemy heroes stuck, expecially melee ones.

Yeah, but then you won't be able to: "force to cliff = 1337 escape"
Does the "shoving into unpathable areas" happen all that often?

^_^LoL^_^
Firefly+flaming lasso+FORCE yourself away=GG

to all people requesting links or crazy for another beta maps. go fuck yourselves. you're just big jackasses who wants to "know" 6.60 sooner than the rest but what you "know" is actually nothing. its thanks to these beta maps that 6.60 is delayed and the release date was moved from march 25 to we don't know when. suck yourselves when you know the beta version is only 10% of the real version.

dont act like fucking pros with those force staff combos cause even a fucking monkey can come up with those things. So please shut the fuck up

Does anyone know how to make aghinims work? Getting the items won't combine it

its thanks to these beta maps that 6.60 is delayed and the release date was moved from march 25 to we don't know when.
If you think that us discussing the beta maps delays the final release, then you must be truly retarded.

suck yourselves when you know the beta version is only 10% of the real version.
We all know the beta version is not a full indicator of what will be in the final release. We've had plenty of other beta maps leaked in the past, you know.
That doesn't mean we can't enjoy playing the beta maps while we wait for the final version.

dont act like fucking pros with those force staff combos cause even a fucking monkey can come up with those things. So please shut the fuck up.
No one here is claiming that he's a pro. We're just discussing the stuff in the beta.

Does anyone know how to make aghinims work? Getting the items won't combine it.
You need two out of of Ogre Axe, Staff of Wizardy or Blade of Alacrity. The two you pick must be different. That is to say, Ogre Axe + Staff of Wizardry, Ogre Axe + Blade of Alacrity or Staff of Wizardry + Blade of Alacrity.

Nc redrach! Youre right!

About force staff:
impetus+force= GG or (G)reater dama(G)e

About aghanims:
sunder+aghanims=1% will remain
LoL......
Song of the siren+aghanims=nightmare
overgrowth+aghanims=gg
divided we stand+aghanims=overpopulation! LoL

aghanims +for many heroes=corny
and create a 3d dota like WOW graphics yehyehyeh and put porn on it so it will be fun

aghanims +for many heroes=corny
and create a 3d dota like WOW graphics yehyehyeh and put porn on it so it will be fun

What a shame, Batrider's old Flamebreak was way better, the new one got me to thinking if I'm gonna use him at all D:

Well, at least I can spam napalm and have em 'asplode

i wouldn't invest too much time with the new heroes just yet....for you guys that were around for the 6.56 releases....remember how different the Pirate was in the last patch versus the actual release?

Coco's rum was some weird crit passive that was either an ultimate or skill based on the release, i don't think X marks the spot was even there, and the Ship was some weirdass spell that nobody could figure out.

If I remember correctly, Coco's Rum was a skill. For 5 seconds you'd have 100% chance double damage crits, and then a 50% miss chance for 5 seconds after.

His ult was X Marks the Spot, and was 5 seconds or something without a second spell to immediately return them.

His Ghost Ship was a non-damaging spell that went in a straight line, pulling things back slightly and slowing them as it hit units.

Tidebringer, the skill, seemed relatively unchanged.

errr, too boring , release the next beta please !! xD :P

I believe in mr. Beta 82 now after icefrog posted new updates in his blog. He revealed that they were really in playtesting and finding bugs stage which is true with evidence already. He also said that its going to be sooner to released. That evidences were enough to believe in him!
If we want evidences like a link for beta 82 of course he wont do it for he will be banned!

TnX mr.beta82!

Yeah, monsieur Beta 82 is lying. Five days is translation time. Playtesting and debugging are what they spend most of the time working on.
Eh. Ice usually (to the best of my knowledge) stops development and tries to hunt down the leaker, but that takes a weak tops.
Also, March 25th was never the release date. Anyone who believed that was a fool.

Mir Beta 82 is a liar. And everyone who belives him is a fool. I know for sure that Beta 61 is the newest one. Don't believe in that crap. Altough we MIGHT be close to a release.

Yeah! I also believed mr.beta82!
He said that within these 5 days ice will update his blog. And ice posted the same as mr.beta82 that 6.60 is sooner to be released and they are already in debugging stage!
Translation stage is not a work for beta testers, it's for translators! So its clear mr.beta82 dont know that!

Whos that mr.beta61 now? His the real liar it's more obvious!
LoL!
Im mr.beta99 and the current beta is 9999999...

We'll see if another Map leaks (you want get it from me though). And if it is a number below 82, we'll see who the liar was.
It is right that 6.60 is about to be finished. But Icefrog never said ANYTHING about 5 days. Not even to betatesters.

*you wont get it from me tough

the next map may have new load screen => more delay :Hurray xD

Owh! About 5 dayz? That's what mr.beta82 thinks! And he got it right! All right, he already have evidences! How about u?

LOL! Actually i requested to have 6.60 a new loading screen for it is long-waited... But where could he get a new one? It will cause delay!

lol these guys, brag about they have latest beta and wont give it to us.
Go test the map, dont waste time here telling us you have it, we dont give a shit

The fences next to the recipe shops:

the sentinel fence can be crossed over

but the scourge fence remains as impassable terrain

So anyone willing to setup some times to play some of these beta games between each other? Say the 17th at around 6pm pst on Bnet?

Room name will be "blogspot beta"

Can you help me with ghost form from Ghost Scepter?
I do it next to a tower that targets me and hits me, and upon cast the tower ignores me.

Is it like you cant been seen even with truesight during ghost form?

I tried that with the new Tauren many times, every time the same result.


Ghost Scepter- the skill on it is not invisible, but more likely similar to Pugna's Skill "cripple", u are invulnerable agains physical attack/damage but vulnerable to spell damge/attack.

@Kujiki

This question has already been answered, but I'll repeat it anyways.

It is NOT an invisibility. Ghost Form turns you ethereal (like Pugna's Decrepify), only allowing you to become hit by magic or spells.

The tower does neither have a magic attack nor spells, thus he fully ignores you for the duration.

Downside of Ghost Form is that you cannot use attacks yourself either, so it's more an item to guarantee a safe channel or spellcast amidst a teambattle than anything else.

I hope that was any help to you.


As for the beta versions - give it a rest. Regardless of what anyone says about which beta is the newest or stuff, we can't increase the speed of which the actual 6.60 is going to be released. If you want to play the betas, go ahead... but don't rush anyone into releasing stuff, that never works.

You'll just end up with unfinished buggy crap *cough*World of Warcraft*cough*

oohhhhh am so excited can't wait hope he releases it tommorow am camping tonight :)

i think that the change is simply to sudden for ppl to accept and a lot of time is needed to adapt... especially with new item recipes ppl might need a lot of time to deal with it.. while doing so, they end up wasting alot of gold on items that they do not need since the recipe has changed.. so i suggest that this is to be implemented slowly so that ppl can adapt to changes... also, the new placement of items are very iritating, hard to find where the items were looking for, plz look into that... meanwhile, good job on the map.. i think the new taverns are really cool.. but we no longer need to type -ap do we?

@haize

You do need to type -ap, or you'll only be able to pick the heroes of your own taverns and the neutral ones.

@haize

The item redistribution may be hard for the people who were used to knowing where everything was... but there was no choice.

The shops were full, and there just no room to place new items, and the increase-in-power-structure was failing (Recipe Shop 5), so he just had to change it. At least this setup leaves some extra space.

But in any case, it's just getting used to imho. Placing weapons near weapons and orbs near orbs makes sense.

Invoker is the most powerful hero!
He have the ability called "lag" which forces players to quit the game bec. Of madness hahaha!!!
His item must be aghanims!
Lag+aghanims="super lag"
super lag- makes the game delay and disconnects all players! LOL

See, he's so Imba!

lol esequel.

After all those updates,
Goblin Techies do not change

Aghanim+Techies should what?
rempte mines +100 damage and 3 sec stun or
Suicide leaves him 1 hp

LoL...
leaves 1 hp? It's no longer suicide!
Why remake techies? Nothing wrong with him

Ah... is Pipe of Insight some kind of Team BkB? If it is, its going to ruin all AoE team combos...
Sniper Ult now has 10 sec CD, lol. Mana/ManaRegen + Observers = GG :D

\http://garena-hack.blogspot.com/

Hasn't it been 10 seconds for a long time? I remember at one point it was nerfed to that from 5 seconds.

Pipe of Insight works only on the unit that has it. You can't cast Barrier on allies.

Incorrect, Redrach. As of Beta 54, barrier casts AoE for some radius on your allies as well. Just FYI

Woah. Well now I understand why it's under Supportive Vestments and not under Protectorate... was wondering about that.
Of course, it only blocks magic damage, so a lot of AoE disablers (Magnataur, Enigma) will still shine.
Quite a nerf for AoE overall though.
Veeery interesting change. As if the metagame wasn't turned on its head already.

Sounds like that item just made Visage the ultimate tank then. Grave Cloak + Meka + Barrier. Crazy stoppage.

It is now possible to have 1 vs 5 game! The one must choose geomancer and buy aghanims! With aghanims it is now 7 geo vs. 5. Hahaha!!! But invoker is the most powerful, remember my last post! He could also be the one!

How does magic barrier work? Does it block a certain amount of magical damage and then disappears or during the duration it blocks damage from every nuke e.g. 100.

I'm guessing it works exactly as Storm Spirit's old spell by the same name (i.e. fixed damage blocked). The alternative you mention would be way too powerful.
Sadly no way to test it in single player.

I just found a code in the beta.

-bonus (like -ma)

Can anyone tell me what it does?

bonus is something in garena i think

Can anyone post the summary of the changes in beta 54 here?
Except for the obvious new item layout!

-bonus is already there since ages... (almost)

and there is a summary with just a few things missing if you are able to read -_-

Bonus simply tells you the last hit tower / roshan bonus gold....something like that

z , dota's map is totally spoilt -.- by icefrog him self . noob creator

So you think you can do a better job than him? And FYI he's not the creator of DotA. So get your facts right before you start spilling shit all over the place

Don't know if this has been mentioned before but -kickafk has been changed so that you can kick people after theyve been afk for 5 minutes instead of the previous 10 (was testing out a few things in single player and went afk a little while to grab something to eat. When i came back i saw a text saying that "Player has been afk for 5.045 minutes, you can type -kickafk 1 to boot him", so I did and succesfully booted myself lol :P).

Anonymous said...
z , dota's map is totally spoilt -.- by icefrog him self . noob creator

May 19, 2009 2:32 PM

Well, if he's a noob creator, HOW COME SO MANY PEOPLE STILL PLAYS DOTA??? And FYI THIS IS JUST A BETA MAP YOU KNOW?! What is here that is OP will most probably not be coming out in THE OFFICIAL version, WAIT FOR THE OFFICIAL VERSION BEFOR MAKING CONCLUSIONS..

Some people thrive on change, and some hate it,each thinking of other to be a retard.

Has anyone else notice that there are 2 new juking spots by the bottom goblin shops?

The top goblin shops already had 2 places to hide or loop through the trees. It looks like the bottom shop has some too. You are able to go behind them and then down, which is a good hiding spot, or you can juke by going up and in a circle around 2 trees.

has anyone noticed that the new mkb stops criticals? i tested a windrunner with mkb and buriza and she never crits i killed like 100 creeps and no crit and not sure about all of them but it also stops mjolnirs orb efecttested and im sure mkb was to blame since evrything worked fine without it. maybe the new trueshot ability is a wierd orb efect that overides crits as well anyone else seen this happen?

Datcu, seems mkb does not override crits. You said it yourself... it's the new trueshot orb effect

ugh -.- well ive explained this already but :P

the true strike effect on MKB is a 100% bash, that stuns for 0 seconds, and deals no bonus damage.
as you can only have one effect on your attack at one time... you wont ever proc criticals or other orb effects...
im pretty sure that if you finish the orb/critical first that you can still critical and will still get true strike... dont quote me on this part tho

Well MKB doesn't stop crits, bashes, or other orb effects for melee just because that's how bashes always worked for melee heroes, its an effect separate from their attack. But yea, for ranged, haven't seen MKB work with anything.

Okay. 5 days are over. No release candidate, no release and no news from icefrog. Who is the liar now, Mr. Beta 82?

Just wait for the final version and don't get fooled.

Mr. Beta 61 FTW!!!

Ok I do have the latest beta which is beta 84..

razor reworked again.. and some new heroes ultimate improved by agha..

this is for now... some later

share the map with us lorrr...
mediafire plzz...

Stop telling us what new beta maps you have and instead upload them so that we will all see.

It has been months since a new version of dota has been released. We are STARVING and CRAVING for it already.

wana ask bout true strike... is it will hit 100% on...
-> evasion hero - true
-> shallow grave -
-> enemy on hills -

-> yes
-> yes, it will hit - the damage will be healt back though (absorbed)
-> yes

In response to Drake; Bashes on ranged will work with criticals if the bash is acquired after the critical. So if a ranged hero has Buriza and MKB, he needs to drop and repick MKB for both to stack. Otherwise critical overrides.

In general, bashes and criticals on ranged will override all buff placers.

MKB and buriza somtimes may stack....critical n bash... emm maybe depends on type of hero... hero come with critical using MKB nothing prob at all;

Leave all issues to Icefrog.....

I think that he will surely edit again the Scepter...so imbalanced for many heroes

MKB is a big issue as of now.

I'll ask what about Yurnero's double attack with buriza and MKB?

Will MKB overides Nerub's Geminate Attack?

@ Nathalynne

Yes, because MKB based on critical strike

ummm.... i think he become more GG....

For your info, my fren is beta map tester... now is Beta 85 i think so...the official map with release in a week or two...there are more additional hero wit aganhim as u play on Beta 56..

critical does not come often...but they may came together
yunero DD + buriza + MKB = IMBA!!!!
the more damage on you the higher critical could get....

For nerub no problem at all... i often use MKB on it.. 2 MKB one radience --->GG

aghanims buffs need some balance...
invoker wayy to imba...

chaos knight is like holyshit...
can be quite a good pick...
mega pushing, nightmare in teambattles....seeing those images again and again every team battle

THD ulti is pretty good now...

huskar...mmm...combine with necrolyte...instant kill....

for NS...dude its kinda gay...impossible to run away from sight...jukes are also wayy harder

one sexy ulti for pudge...

buffs that are errr....
Sandking...1 pulse difference...lol

void...not worth it...although 1 more second....

jugg...2 more hits...u could also indirectly get ur own hits from increased IAS so...aghanim is useless on him

shadow priest...not a big difference really...

abaddon...really ulti gone with just a hex...no point making it longer duration....

sniper...wow i SO need the increased range...super KSer from a mile away...

so nobody noticed the new anti-backdoor mechanism? but still. cool.

They have changed the kickafk command to work at 5 minutes afk, instead of 10. A good improvement IMO

@ RagnaBaby said...

so nobody noticed the new anti-backdoor mechanism? but still. cool.

You mean towers regen 20 hp per second if attacked by hero without creep support? In AI maps, Super Towers mode only give 7 hp per sec iirc.

Yes, because MKB based on critical strike.

MKB's 100 damage is a type of magical damage. And you say that MKB based on critical that is to say crtical strike is a type of magical damage??? Which is reduced by Hero's magical defense and BKB???
JustBeCooL

Does MKB also go through pseudo evasion such as Dispersion and Backtrack?

from using common sense i'd say no

Hey guys I have a question about omnislash. In the past he used to have 3/5/8 slashes with a maximum of 16 slashes with enaugh IAS. Now with the aghanim improvement his base slashes at lvl3 is now 10 slashes. Now with a base count of 10 slashes will the maximum number of slashes he can do be 20 or still 16? btw 20 slashes is just imba...

I believe it was earlier established that the new MKB is based on a 100% chance to proc a 0-second stun Bash.
And since Critical Strike cannot proc at the same time as Bash, this explains why you can't crit with MKB in your inventory.

Not really a problem, IMO. As long as they clearly state it in the item description.
Sure, now certain heroes shouln't get MKB, but they have better choices anyway. (Deso/BFury for Jugg, BFury/BFly for Mortred)

wait... does the MKB still have its 100 dmg ministun? o.o
if so... 2 bash skills wut?

At redrach

Well I just said this a while ago, but once again MKB does not stop crits for melee heroes, bashes are a separate effect for melee heroes. So Jugg and Mortred will not lose anything from getting MKB, try it out yourself.

For me it seems like IAS no longer works to generate additional slashes for yurnero (now very easy to see because the damage done is displayed in green numbers). Does anyone else experience the same thing?

I think they still generate additional slashes as I have done a crit while doing omnislash(crit,bash,lifesteal,etc. only generate on additional slashes). What I'm concerned about is that how many is the maximum amount slashes omnislash can do?

omni slash is basically a set of blinkstrikes... each done at a... 0.4 second interval?
if jugg has enough IAS, he will normally attack enemies
so what your seeing is the damage done by the blinkstrikes, and what your not seeing is that jugg is actually attacking normally inbetween

dota is getting stupid and stupid

^ you're stupid

hello?is taking too fuking long 6.60?its 25th may wakethefuckup ppl?

u want him to release it today with a bunch of bugs so u can bitch about it for the next few weeks?

It's been A LONG WHILE since a release fucking assholes. Who wouldn't be upset?!!!!

You guys don't have the right to be upset. Icefrog is updating DotA Allstars for free, you guys are not paying for anything.

It's human nature to be upset when we don't get the things we want.
But honestly, what are you going to do in this situation? Bitch about it on a blog unaffiliated with IceFrog? Not much else you can do now, is there? Try it on the actual forums and you'll get banned.
All we can do is wait patiently. Or hope that someone releases another beta map. Incidentally, that's the only reason I'm here.

i think the new map 6.60 is good.. but., but the new Razor is too much powerfull..

At this point it really isn't a matter of waiting for bugs to be fixed. Go read the IceBlog, they're working on translation right now. The bug testing finished about a week ago.

At present there's no reason why 6.60 couldn't be released, Ice just wants a simultaneous release in multiple languages.

Multiple languages? Why not release it in english?

y but there really isnt that much to translate, 1-2 hero stories, some tooltips, some items and some skills. I mean cmon, thats only work for 1-2 days...

y but there really isnt that much to translate, 1-2 hero stories, some tooltips, some items and some skills. I mean cmon, thats only work for 1-2 days...

hu3 i hate playin dota now...to many playin 6.59d colided map in Garena... ice plz release 6.59e or 6.60 immediately...

DotA is my life...huhu

thats your own fault idiot... just buy a legal wc3 and learn how to patch (isnt that hard, really) and you´ll be fine.

huh what fault???
im talking bout the hacked map lorr... every DotA player knows except u nOob...
i want 6.60 to be released immediately... so all DotA player can play the DotA finely...

there is nothing about my wc3 lohhh... im in malaysia...most GG player here use 1.21 patch, less 1.22 patch and none using 1.23 patch... if not i cant play wit them...

you´ve just proven that you are the noob. the collided-map-bug/exploit is fixed with 1.23. Icefrog cant and wont fix it with 6.60, so if you are unable to patch your illegal warcraft version its your own fault. Theres just one map exploit which still isnt fixed but that hasn´t to do anything with dota but with fake maps which just download trojans (and blizzard will probably release 1.24 to solve that problem).

1-2 hero stories... i thought he was remaking many hero stories since the taverns have changed to neutrals... hello!? some taverns from senti and scourge are neutral now which means new stories for neutral heroes

Submitted by IceFrog on Thu, 05/14/2009 - 22:13
"The next update, 6.60, is nearing the end of its design and testing phase."

Already been 11 days.

Icefrog's "near to end" means at least a month.

y that really sucks, and no news about a new leajavascript:void(0)k / release at all :-(

just want to let u know an update said a super collided map by PRO|Hunter already bypass 1.23 patch...so how?

Hackers that hack dota are big bunch of losers.They hack a game that only last 45 minutes and they don't even get to use it in tournaments.

Only retarded noobs with a small penis and no RL use hacks in dota since they cant play or win the game without them and they care about winning a pub.

btw. 30 new posts in the dota translation forum since the last 20 hours. looks quite good if DotA now really just needs to be translated (although i think it´s quite silly to wait for the translations instead of releasing it asap and the translated versions l8er)

@above
what forum? and where can I find that? :-p

translate.getdota.com

But I wouldn´t recommend spamming in these forums (although you won´t be able to do that in any other forum besides the general forum anyways) because that would probably just slow down the translating process and therefore the map release.

Looks like Troll is getting a rather significant remake. His ult now lasts 4/6/8 seconds with 60/80/100 bonus attack speed, 10% bonus MS, and 20 second cooldown. This puts it on par with the new Satanic, right?

Also, what're the jungle times that people are coming up with? I got troll to level 11 at the 18 minute mark with a BKB,Berserker rage (for the 32% Quelling Blade, then fervor/stats).
BS level 10 with manta at 20 minutes, and Magnataur with an 18 minute bfury going shock/cleave. Thinking about trying a Cleave/Empower build later.
All of these started with Salve/Blade/Stout.

Anyone else have suggestions for jungle heroes? :D

@ ^ anonymous
if it is soo easy ,then why dnt U crack it... get the map and upload it on sm site and post the link here ?