Dota 6.58 Beta - Dota-Allstars 6.58 Beta Map Leaked! (Beta 38)
At last, Dota 6.58 Beta - Dota-Allstars 6.58 Beta Map is Leaked! Thanks to Rizal who give me the Dota 6.58 Beta download link and various people trying and providing the changelogs. In this post i will compile it into single post. Enjoy!
Dota 6.58 Beta 33 Changelogs:
Blademail
Required Chainmail, Broadsword dan Robe the Magi
5 armor, 22 damage, 10 intelligent, Damage Return (active)
Cranium Basher: Required Javelin, Gauntlets of Stength dan Cranium Basher recipe
30 damage, 3 strength, Bash
Divine Rapier
+200 Damage
Required Sacred Relic dan Demon Edge
No longer need claymore to build
Still drops on death
Monkey King bar got +5 damage
Dirge the Undying remake
1st skill: Decay
Minus 4 str for 30 sec
Mana cost : 70
Damage 30/60/90/120 500 AoE
Cooldown : 11/9/7/5 sec
2nd skill: Parasite
hooklike skill, fires a bug towards point, infests first enemy it touches, does dmg over time, and when the unit with the parasite dies, it jumps to another unit in range.
3rd skill: Tombstone
summons a tombstone that spawns zombies, max of 6 at lvl 4, the zombies seem to just keep comming till the time is up or the tombstone dies, but max of 6.
Ultimate: Flesh Golem
turns Dirge into a Flesh Golem, with a passive AoE plague.... dont know if it has the same effect as before, but any unit that dies under the effect of plague heal dirge like his old zombies did
Storm Spirit remake
Electric Vortex
-looks like it drags the character it is cast on to the casting point, which is a pretty short range from SS
Static Remant
-leaves a copy of him sitting in a spot, only one at a time. when a character approaches, it attacks them
Overload
-After any spell SS casts, he gets the same overload as last game (it looks like at least). No longer based on how many attacks you do.
Ball Lightning
-can warp anywhere in the map, essentially a blink whose mana is dependent upon how much you want to spend. Much quicker cast time than his last ulti. Does damage depend on how far you blink.
Rikimaru +2.2 agility, down from 2.9
Bloodseeker's Rupture cooldown reduced: 100 sec --> 70 sec
Silencer Curse of the Silent is now AoE
Drow's Markmanship Agility Increased(12/24/36->15/30/45)
Demon Edge cost change (2600->2400)
Buriza recipe cost change (1000->1200)
Necrolyte now has HeartStopper Aura, instead of Diffusion Aura.
BloodSeeker base Str buffed (18->23)
Doom cooldown buffed(180/150/120 -> 160/130/100)
Kunkka's GhostShip MS Bonus nerfed. (30% MS -> 15% MS)
Techies renamed to Squee spleen and spoon
Lion had his tint removed
Lion's Projectile changed to a Ram's head
Dota 6.58 Beta 34 Changelogs:
Change on how Tombstone zombie goes out. When an enemy nearby, a zombie will come out and attack him.
Dota 6.58 Beta 38 Changelogs:
-Heart of Tarrasque now gives 1% of your max HP per second instead of +15 HP/s.
-Avatar of Vengeance Terror skill has been replaced by Terror Wave, does the same thing except for that it is now in waveform instead of hitting everyone close to her.
-Color tint on Lion is back.
If your want to try it yourself here it is.
Dota-Allstars Beta 38 Download link:
>Dota-Allstars Beta 38 via Rapidshare
Dota-Allstars Beta 38 via MediaFire
Dota-Allstars Beta 34 Download link:
Dota-Allstars Beta 34 direct download via Warcraft Map
Dota-Allstars Beta 34 via File-Upload
Dota-Allstars Beta 33 Download link:
Dota-Allstars Beta 33 direct download via Warcraft Map
Dota-Allstars Beta 33 via Rapidshare
Dota-Allstars Beta 33 via MediaFire
Thanks for the info guys, really appreciate it. You can also contribute providing the changelogs before the offical Dota 6.58 map released! :)
Credits:
Will, Drake, CapSeb, Dota123, Redrach
Rizal for Beta 33
Dota-Allstars Beta for Beta 34
Grasshopper for Beta 38
Dota 6.58 Beta 33 Changelogs:
Blademail
Required Chainmail, Broadsword dan Robe the Magi
5 armor, 22 damage, 10 intelligent, Damage Return (active)
Cranium Basher: Required Javelin, Gauntlets of Stength dan Cranium Basher recipe
30 damage, 3 strength, Bash
Divine Rapier
+200 Damage
Required Sacred Relic dan Demon Edge
No longer need claymore to build
Still drops on death
Monkey King bar got +5 damage
Dirge the Undying remake
1st skill: Decay
Minus 4 str for 30 sec
Mana cost : 70
Damage 30/60/90/120 500 AoE
Cooldown : 11/9/7/5 sec
2nd skill: Parasite
hooklike skill, fires a bug towards point, infests first enemy it touches, does dmg over time, and when the unit with the parasite dies, it jumps to another unit in range.
3rd skill: Tombstone
summons a tombstone that spawns zombies, max of 6 at lvl 4, the zombies seem to just keep comming till the time is up or the tombstone dies, but max of 6.
Ultimate: Flesh Golem
turns Dirge into a Flesh Golem, with a passive AoE plague.... dont know if it has the same effect as before, but any unit that dies under the effect of plague heal dirge like his old zombies did
Storm Spirit remake
Electric Vortex
-looks like it drags the character it is cast on to the casting point, which is a pretty short range from SS
Static Remant
-leaves a copy of him sitting in a spot, only one at a time. when a character approaches, it attacks them
Overload
-After any spell SS casts, he gets the same overload as last game (it looks like at least). No longer based on how many attacks you do.
Ball Lightning
-can warp anywhere in the map, essentially a blink whose mana is dependent upon how much you want to spend. Much quicker cast time than his last ulti. Does damage depend on how far you blink.
Rikimaru +2.2 agility, down from 2.9
Bloodseeker's Rupture cooldown reduced: 100 sec --> 70 sec
Silencer Curse of the Silent is now AoE
Drow's Markmanship Agility Increased(12/24/36->15/30/45)
Demon Edge cost change (2600->2400)
Buriza recipe cost change (1000->1200)
Necrolyte now has HeartStopper Aura, instead of Diffusion Aura.
BloodSeeker base Str buffed (18->23)
Doom cooldown buffed(180/150/120 -> 160/130/100)
Kunkka's GhostShip MS Bonus nerfed. (30% MS -> 15% MS)
Techies renamed to Squee spleen and spoon
Lion had his tint removed
Lion's Projectile changed to a Ram's head
Dota 6.58 Beta 34 Changelogs:
Change on how Tombstone zombie goes out. When an enemy nearby, a zombie will come out and attack him.
Dota 6.58 Beta 38 Changelogs:
-Heart of Tarrasque now gives 1% of your max HP per second instead of +15 HP/s.
-Avatar of Vengeance Terror skill has been replaced by Terror Wave, does the same thing except for that it is now in waveform instead of hitting everyone close to her.
-Color tint on Lion is back.
If your want to try it yourself here it is.
Dota-Allstars Beta 38 Download link:
>Dota-Allstars Beta 38 via Rapidshare
Dota-Allstars Beta 38 via MediaFire
Dota-Allstars Beta 34 Download link:
Dota-Allstars Beta 34 direct download via Warcraft Map
Dota-Allstars Beta 34 via File-Upload
Dota-Allstars Beta 33 Download link:
Dota-Allstars Beta 33 direct download via Warcraft Map
Dota-Allstars Beta 33 via Rapidshare
Dota-Allstars Beta 33 via MediaFire
Thanks for the info guys, really appreciate it. You can also contribute providing the changelogs before the offical Dota 6.58 map released! :)
Credits:
Will, Drake, CapSeb, Dota123, Redrach
Rizal for Beta 33
Dota-Allstars Beta for Beta 34
Grasshopper for Beta 38
Yo can i get a mirror site other then rapidshare???
ReplyDeleteWow now basher 15% for range and 25% for melee? lol thats quite imba.
ReplyDeleteO a 3 sec cooldown is added for basher as it is stated in the item..lol and javelin has became 1500.
ReplyDeleteJavelin now gives 21 damage + 20% chance for 40 extra damage, making it 29 damage per attack on average, for only 1500 gold.
ReplyDeleteIt's the best base damage item by far, even 3 blades of attack, which were recently made a lot cheaper give 2 damage less(and take 2 slots more).
Haven't done much checking, Icefrog doesn't seem to care much for changing tooltips in beta releases so some changes are kinda hard to notice but here are some changes to add to your changelog:
ReplyDeleteSilencer's CotS is now an AoE spell with 250 AoE. Have no hero to test it on so Im not sure but I guess it's the same old CotS but in AoE form so that you can curse multiple heros at once.
Changed icon on LVL Death (Fire Lord's Soul Burn icon). Since it can only be used on heros I don't know if it has been changed in any other way, but it probably hasn't.
Demon edge now at 2400$ down from 2600$
ReplyDeleteWhen the remant get in contact with any enemy, he explode and does damage, don't know the exact number but nearly 200
ReplyDeleteHeh now the storm spirit looks much weaker than before..Dont understand why IceFrog Has to remake o.O
ReplyDeleteSS first skill is weak :S hope icefrog will buff it :D
ReplyDeleteNew animation now on tower now with glyph of fortification
ReplyDeleteNecro lost his dmg reduction passive skill and now has Dirge old heartstopper aura skill.
ReplyDeleteshouldn't have changed storm panda's third skill .. he'll need a lot of mana to win a game ..
ReplyDeleteby the way, where can i find a cracked frozen throne world editor ? .. i cant use the DOTA theme manager without it right ? ..
salamat .. thanks .. ! :)
If you got up to date WC3 (1.22) you don't need a crack.
ReplyDeletethere's a new animation on luna's lucent and eclipse. Very cool.
ReplyDeleteStatic Remnant may have low damage, but it also has a very low cooldown (synergy with Overload). If IceFrog were to increase the damage on it to make it more like a normal AoE nuke, he'd have to increase the cooldown as well. That would make the hero weaker overall, as he'd be able to proc Overload less often.
ReplyDeleteRight now, I think he's quite powerful.
Ball Lightning to an enemy -> Attack with Overload -> Cast Static Remnant -> Attack with Overload -> Use Electric Vortex to keep enemy from running -> Attack with Overload -> Cast Static Remnant -> Attack with Overload -> Use Ball Lightning to chase and finish with Overload.
That's an incredible combo right there, especially considering you can easily run away at any point if you're in danger.
it looks like when you charge of a darkness a unit there is some spinning animation on top of it. is that new?
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, and the whole combo I mentioned above takes only about 500 mana (even lesser if you don't use Ball Lightning at the end), and you'll have more than enough by level 11. (Doesn't take more than 2 minutes to regenerate it all as well)
ReplyDeleteJust go to the neutral creeps and try it out. The new Storm's way way more powerful than you seem to think.
@Anonymous:
No, that animation was added in a much older version. 6.55 even.
They changed the icon for Panda's Thunder Clap. It looks like a paw now.
ReplyDeleteim loving undying's ability to push. run to the tower, throw down tomb, launch that plague thing and turn into golem. i have no idea what the point of the first nuke is though.
ReplyDeleteBloodseeker's base strength increased from 18 to 23 (+5*19HP = +95HP).
ReplyDeleteAnd it is not beta 20. It's "Beta 33", as said ingame.
ReplyDeleteNew Chronosphere animation and Drow's ulti agi increased
ReplyDeleteYou guys are pathetic. Icefrog doesn't want to show the beta maps to the public, if you like Dota that much you should at least respect his will. Gtfo and wait for the public version or apply at http://getdota.com/contact/contact_type/BetaSignup if you want to see the new map in progress.
ReplyDeleteRigwarl's ulti now affect heroes in an AOE. I'm not sure though I'm in Single player mode so it could be that. :)
ReplyDelete@Anonymous:
ReplyDeleteThat's because of the -noherolimit command. You can verify it by checking with v6.57b
So, no, Rigwarl's ulti doesn't affect heroes in an AoE.
Techies renamed to Squee spleen and spoon
ReplyDeleteLion had his tint removed
Lion's Projectile changed to a Ram's head, I believe, just like his staff. Nice change. :)
ReplyDelete@omg:
ReplyDeleteIt's not about stealing information Icefrog wants to hide. He is not sitting at home whining all the day since some1 told us how the Beta looks like. It is simply the fact that Icefrog cannot show the beta officially because there are many bugs inside, tooltips are missing, some sort of stuff is unbalanced (just like the missing item from 6.57beta) and above all the not- that-loyal-fans are complaining about those facts. They would never accept the beta. They rather would say, DotA gets worth and worth. But Icefrog has a magic weapon against those blames: The beta is not official. You shouln't use it!
SO, who are you? One of those who are complaining after visiting a blog with leaked information?
Please ... no one wants to hear it.
... worse not worth.
ReplyDelete(cannot edit the post ;_;)
-Silencer Curse of the Silent is now AoE
ReplyDelete-Drow's Markmanship Agility Increased(12/24/36->15/30/45)
-Demon Edge cost change (2600->2400)
-Buriza recipe cost change (1000->1200)
-Necrolyte now has HeartStopper Aura, instead of Diffusion Aura.
-BloodSeeker base Str buffed (18->23)
-Doom cooldown buffed(180/150/120 -> 160/130/100)
-Kunkka's GhostShip MS Bonus nerfed. (30% MS -> 15% MS)
These are all the balance changes I could find so far. I didn't include cosmetic changes.
TRAXEX BUFF?
ReplyDeleteMust be fake. Impossible.
You really shouldn't do this
ReplyDeleteWhy would you do something against Icefrog wants? Especially when he's done so much for you guys.
1. He tells us to PLEASE don't leak the beta map.
2. You like dota alot and play it alot.
3. You just leak the map anyway.
WOW. Unbelievable.
Hmm, I'm quite interested now; do you have a link to where he said that, Flame_Guardian?
ReplyDeleteAll those complainers that the map was leaked are pathetic idiots.
ReplyDeleteName one good reason that betas should be private, when the full version is free and open to everyone(and no, someone deciding betas should be private is not a reason in much the same way that if he told you to jump off a cliff that's not a reason to do it).
I'll even make a prediction: no sensible or logical reason will be posted by anyone.
tomoyo if your reading this have fun!!
ReplyDeleteTauren Chieftain is it true he will be in 6.58
ReplyDeletewow i'm looking forward to play new panda that seems very strong now , all you need is ultimate(no cd + 75 mana 1 spin ) + overload + some micro + vortex comes in handy . he's now very versatile and micro depending
ReplyDeletequote from random source " IceFrog will make the Tauren Chieftain back on several next version "
ReplyDeleteI love the new chronosphere, gonna keep playing void.
ReplyDeletei bet the noobies who cry "omg stop leaking" downloaded the map before saying so
ReplyDeleteaw man icefrog why did you ruin SS???????????????
ReplyDeletedamn!!!! can someone give me download sites for this map? i cnt download it from rapidshare and mediafire! damn!
ReplyDeleteDirge zombies no longer give you money when you kill then
ReplyDeleteOther upload sites, if you can't download from rapidshare:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.badongo.com/file/12753887
http://uploading.com/files/IT037STK/6.58_Beta_20.w3x.html
http://uploading.com/files/IT037STK/6.58_Beta_20.w3x.html
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a00fd64/n/6_58_Beta_20_w3x
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2iw9tm
I hope it's enough sites to download from :)
-Fiend's Grip no longer cost HP/MP per second, but rather, drain target's 5% Max Mana per second and transfer it to Bane.
ReplyDeleteIt Looks like that other friend heroes can walk inside Void's Crhonosphere, I dont know if it is because of the Single Play but can someone confirm plz?
ReplyDeleteDecay
ReplyDelete-4 str 30 sec
mana cost : 70
Damage 30/60/90/120 500 AoE
cooldown : 11/9/7/5 sec
@Victor:
ReplyDeleteAgain, that's because of -noherolimit.
All of the units under Faceless Void's control can move in the Chronosphere. That's why fun builds like Manta Void, Necro Void, etc. are possible.
@Anonymous:
Ah, so that's what Decay does. Makes more sense now. Removing 4 STR from an AoE every 5 seconds can be pretty powerful.
Still no CM buff, damn.
ReplyDeleteTraxex buff/Dirge remake are good news though. Now buff Rylai so she can be something other than a mana fountain! ;)
i liked WD's makeover.
ReplyDeleteChain mail's price went up by 50 if i'm not mistaken.
ReplyDelete@Will:
ReplyDeleteWhat WD makeover?
The changes to Maledict's animation were added in an older version.
Man, I am LOVING the new Undying. Parasite has got to be my new favorite ability. It does like 40 damage per second for maybe 5 seconds, then switches to another target. It seems that if it kills something then the next target takes increased damage. AND, it continues until there's no other nearby target to switch to.
ReplyDeleteI had it single shotting creeps at one point. That's like 500-600 dps for 5 seconds there!! That'd nearly guarantee a dead hero should it switch to one.
Enfeeble no longer gives negative regeneration.
ReplyDeleteFiend's Grip is imba, at level 1 it does 500 + 25% of max hp damage (and that 25% is used to heal you, oh and it steals 25% of enemy's mana as well). At level 3 it is 1075+25% of max hp. The mana cost is low for an ulti (100/175/250, and don't forget you steal mana as well so you probably don't even lose mana) and 120 sec cd aint all that long.
ReplyDeleteThe reason he wasn't top tier before was because he had no AoE, longer than average cooldowns and his disables are conditional (sleep cancels if attacked, fiends grip cancels if your stunned). Although those problems are still present, his ulti is now so strong that he will be able to gank the shit out of anyone making him toop tier anyway.
Fiend's Grip does not do 25% of max HP as damage. It just drains 25% of max mana.
ReplyDeleteFrankly, Bane is already strong. He doesn't need a buff except for maybe Nightmare.
ReplyDeleteAlso, for those who say heroes like Rylai/WD/Bane/Lina should be buffed should think about it again. They are already very strong if you use them properly.
However, I too feel that Drow Ranger does not deserve a buff. If she gets a buff Centaur should too :P.
As for heroes who should get remaked, maybe Nerubian Assasin or maybe Lich :P.
As to Kunkka's nerf, I would rather Icefrog make TideBringer his ultimate with 6/5/4 delay between hits and 50/75/100 dmg bonus for 1 hit with 400/525/650 AoE splash and maybe a chance to cause a wave when attacking with TideBringer. Then Torrent could be buffed slightly and X the same. Then his third skill will be Ghost ship. Maybe like the old one in the beta :P
Meepo's Poof damae nerfed (40/80/120/160 -> 60/80/100/120)
ReplyDeletegood, poof did unnecessarily stupid amounts of damage
ReplyDeleteoh and @redrach, meant Lion
The new Dirge sucks hard, especially the decay skill. Old Dirge wasn't much good either, though. Anyway, the new storm spirit is imba! I'm looking forward to pwn with him soon. I also think the nerf to kunkka's ulti is pretty harsh.
ReplyDeleteBane, Rylai and Witch Doctor do need buffs.
ReplyDeleteBane had very high mana costs on all his spells(His old ult costs 650 mana and 400 hp at level 3!), while he has low intelligence for an int hero and a bottle couldn't compensate much, unlike with other gankers and he also needs BKB to use his ult without being interrupted, so he wasn't used in high level games.
Rylai is too slow, has very high mana costs(and her frost nova is totally inferior to lich's frost nova) and she needs a dagger and bkb to be able to use her ult properly, which is too much to farm for a ganker, while she also needs BoT, because she's too slow.
WD just needs a remake. His maledict and ward deal high damage, but he needs to stay close to the opponent in order to deal that combo and his low hp don't really help for that and he also needs bkb to counter interrupts.
Drow didn't need a buff, she owns pubs as it is, she just needs to be more team oriented in order to be used in high level games.
Kunka needs his splash nerfed, it can currently hit units up to 1000 range(the 500 AoE in the tooltip is the radius of the splash and not the diameter) and will deal all his damage without any reductions from armor, so other units take more damage than the target he hits, which is stupid and doesn't make any sense.
I don't think WD needs a remake. Maledict is the most powerful debuff in the game, and stacks with every combo. He's also a great farmer who can rapidly kill neutrals by spamming Cask. I never have problems farming up BKB and Aghanims on him.
ReplyDeleteBane was very mana-dependent before. Any sort of mana burn would shut him down big time, so things were especially bad for him in 6.57b where Diffusal Blades were so common. I'll need to play him to see if the new ultimate fixes this.
Rylai most definitely needs a buff. Right now, she's a very strong ganker and walking mana fountain and nothing more. Her complete inability to farm (poor attack animation, low AoE damage on Nova, high mana cost on Nova, etc.) means that she has to struggle to farm up BKB and Dagger for her ultimate. She contributes almost nothing late-game. (You can even cast spells through Frostbite).
Meepo's nerf was very much needed. But I expected some other buff to him to somewhat counter the nerf to Poof. Maybe his stats have changed?
Why would you want Nerubian Assassin or Lich to get remade? They're both excellent heroes who are even seen in higher level games. I can understand wanting to change one of their skills each (Spiked Carapace and Frost Armor) but they definitely don't need a full remake.
did Rhasta get buffed? His spells are so expensive.
ReplyDeleteWD does not need a remake.
and Rylai is being used competitively a lot right now, I think she'll be fine this patch
i tried the map its amazing i got the chance to try the new Dirge
ReplyDeleteTombStone Skill
it has a passive Magic Resistance
and each Zombie has a passive Slowing Skill called "DEATHSTRIKE"
Synergizes well with Flesh Golem Skill
Purification Icon is Changed & lvl death icon is Changed too
Darky here ...
ReplyDeletei m loving what icefrog is doing with the map.
purification icon isnt only changed ... its more like the icons of omniknight's purification and chen's pentinence has been switched (spare the spelling)
Actually, although the tooltips said that meepo got their poof dmg nerf to 120 dmg, it got buff to 270 dmg(it mean one meepo can clear 1 turn creep in a while). You just need to test it, freaking imba.
ReplyDeleteNo buff to sentry wards? =(
ReplyDeleteSentry wards don't need a buff. In older versions, invisible heroes were useless against a good team if they would just buy wards.
ReplyDeleteAnd I really mean useless, not just 'countered'. It was so bad that no one would get invisible heroes in competitive games.
Now that wards have been nerfed, teams have to spend money on Dust as well (which takes up slots, doesn't last long, can't be used to prevent invisible enemies from initiating, etc.) Now we're seeing Rikimaru (and to some extent, Gondar) in serious games as well. It's a great change.
tl;dr Sentry Wards don't need a buff, Rikimaru just needs to be nerfed (and he has been).
Yeah Sentries could need a buff. If Dust wouldn't have his ridiculous CD it would be a good alternative.
ReplyDeleteWhy buff bane? He has a decent lanecontrol and once his mana regenerates hes a force to be reckoned with on a one-on-one lane.
Dont understand icy... the last changes were kinda dumb. Towerdenies give gold, Tower can lasthit for you... where is the thrill do be killed by scourgetower and not behitted once by a fag and lasthitted by the tower so the player gets the kill?
Wirchdoc is fine, too. Stun him well and his maledict-ulti-combo roxx
Atropos (Bane Elemental) isn't seen much in higher level games. Compared to other int ganker/support heroes, he needs too much farm to overcome his mana deficiency and be effective. Remember, he can't tank or carry, so he shouldn't be stealing creep kills from his allies.
ReplyDeletePlus his ultimate cost way too much for what it did. A channeling single-target disable that drains mana and hit-points and stops if you run out of mana? Stupid. Why pick him when you can pick Enigma or Magnataur and disable the whole team?
Bane DOES need a buff. He's a strong hero, but just not strong enough to be a pick. Nightmare is a sleep spell and the target wakes up on hitting them as well as his ultimate being practically the channeling version of Beastmaster's Roar that is a shit load more expensive. Stunners and mini-stunners are used a whole lot in high level games making it impossible for Bane to channel long enough. Hell, Rhasta's normal shackles move has a channeling stun for just as much time.
ReplyDeleteAlso Bane's spells are incredibly expensive and his Brain Sap has a 20 s cooldown. Bane just need slight buffs for him to be a much more chosen pick. At the moment, if you need heroes that could stun, most people would just pick someone like Lion, or for an ulti stun, use Beastmaster instead.
if there is ppl who copies content from this blog, go to their blog, click on their google ads hundreds of times until they got banned from adsense.. hahaha.. seriously.. they dont deserve to get visitors since they copied it all from aliefs blog.. dota-allstars-blog.blogspot.com is the original n the main dota blog out here in the internet.. who ever wanna copy, plz do link back to here or perhaps give some credits or DONATE to alief perhaps..
ReplyDeleteim 100% backing alief upon this issue
wow roshan regens much faster now, and he can spam his stun more. i think they dont want people taking on roshan alone anymore
ReplyDeleteactually that's a great idea - making roshan stronger so that only a team could kill him and not any single hero.
ReplyDeleteas for kunka , i dont see why icefrog should nerf his ulti. that would be pointless and less effective for teamplay. the only skill that need to be nerf is tidebringer .too much aoe damage. please icefrog,if you are reading this,dont nerf his ulti. =D
ReplyDeletehi alief!!!
ReplyDeletedo you know when will the next AI map will be release??
i just want to play a new and improve AI on the next ai map... if you have some idea pls make a blog about this.. thank you btw very nice site you have
Well, Think of bane in a 3-on-3. he can sleep one enemies, making a lategamer (mortred or sb else) harmless when using Enfeeble and use his ulti on a third one. paired with necro this can be insane. Sure hes not the strongest one but others should be buffed, not him, dirge or Storm. Has anyone seen venomancer getting picked lately? Dont think so...
ReplyDeletehere is teh newer version! nofake! http://dota-allstars-beta.blogspot.com/
ReplyDeleteHi
ReplyDeleteUndyings third skill is now Soul Rip!!!
Parasite isn't there anymore :-(
And Tombstone changed too.
ReplyDeleteHere's how the new Tombstone seems to work:
ReplyDeleteEvery second, the Tombstone checks if there are any enemies around it and generates one zombie per enemy. Zombies have only 30 HP. Zombies have the "Deathstrike" buff that slows enemies they hit. After one hit, they get the "Deathlust" buff increasing their attack and move speed. Zombies cannot be controlled, and if the enemy they're attacking dies the zombies die too.
The Tombstone is immune to all spells, has low HP, and has a duration.
So now you can cast Tombstone in the jungle (using it to cut down trees appropriately) and then pull as many neutrals as you can into the AoE. This still isn't enough, as zombies die in one hit. You'll need to pull the neutrals and ensure they target you instead of the zombies. When you take too much damage, use Soul Rip to heal yourself.
Oh, and another thing: the Zombies are immune to spells as well. Otherwise they'd die too easily to AoE spells, Radiance, etc.
ReplyDeleteBattlefury should still rip through them.
imagine someone pushing against es + undying .. 10-15 creeps + 15 zombies and they die very fast this means probably 15 or 30 more zombies .. this means lots of creeps, and one crazy earthshaker ult
ReplyDeleteOk, maybe Bane could use a buff but he is really powerful when a few friends are playing against each other, say 2v2 or 3v3. Anyway, it would be good if Icefrog made Scepter buff Bane's ultimate slightly or something.
ReplyDeleteNow, I just found that Rexxar's Wild Axes Damage can be reduce by magic resistance and armour. That totally sucks. Rexxar has been nerfed like hell recently so I think they should make his Wild Axes stronger. Maybe deal physical damage but reduce attack damage when axes are flying.
Also, in case some people are unaware, the new betas might actually be quite old. Beta testers usually do not leak the newest betas or Icefrog might kick the guy out of the team :P
Finally, its true, Kunkka is gay because of his Tidebringer. Kunkka should be slightly gay or Icefrog would not be giving enough credits for the loading screen :P. Maybe make Tidebringer an Ultimate!
Ok, maybe Bane could use a buff but he is really powerful when a few friends are playing against each other, say 2v2 or 3v3. Anyway, it would be good if Icefrog made Scepter buff Bane's ultimate slightly or something.
ReplyDeleteNow, I just found that Rexxar's Wild Axes Damage can be reduce by magic resistance and armour. That totally sucks. Rexxar has been nerfed like hell recently so I think they should make his Wild Axes stronger. Maybe deal physical damage but reduce attack damage when axes are flying.
Also, in case some people are unaware, the new betas might actually be quite old. Beta testers usually do not leak the newest betas or Icefrog might kick the guy out of the team :P
Finally, its true, Kunkka is gay because of his Tidebringer. Kunkka should be slightly gay or Icefrog would not be giving enough credits for the loading screen :P. Maybe make Tidebringer an Ultimate!
Earthshaker's ultimate only counts enemy units and corpses, not allied units. I don't think zombies leave corpses (their bodies disappear quickly without leaving skeletonized corpses).
ReplyDeleteVoid ultimate(chronosphere) change visual effect.
ReplyDelete@Nickfreak:
ReplyDeleteSure, Bane can Nightmare one hero, Enfeeble another, and Fiend's Grip the yet another hero. But that still leaves two other heroes who can stun him, canceling his ultimate. Nightmare gets canceled by AoE spells and Radiance. I agree Enfeeble is strong, but that's why IceFrog is nerfing it slightly by removing the HP degeneration.
@DeathRider_Zero:
The main priority is to make DotA balanced for 5v5 competitive play.
If you target Techies' Suicide within about 500 range of them, they yell out "Don't run! We are your friends!". It's a nice cosmetic change since I'm a Techies user.
ReplyDelete@ deathriderzero....rexxar's axes have always been reduced like that. what are you talking about?
ReplyDelete@ SLAUGTER: Yeah, I heard that, and it caught my attention. But i wasnt sure if that was added earlier, because i'm not a techies user. Can only allies hear it or everyone?
ReplyDeleteto anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm sure that it is the first time I've heard that happen to Techies and I really do hope that only allies can hear it because enemies would know if your gonna commit suicide or just plant a bomb or just trying to scare them away.
@redrach Thats exactly the reaon why i said in a 3on3 game. Sure there might be better ones in a 5on5 but on my competitive games we picked him sometimes cuase there were only worse heroes in -rd mode (esl). But i wouldn'T mind a buff either. But icy seems to buff one thing horribly and needs to nerf it through the next 3 Version (Kunkka,Orchid, clockwerk...)
ReplyDeleteold storm come baaaack..
ReplyDeleteas far as im aware, i have beta 38, i havnt played it ye, but i got it from another one of the copy sites of this place, tell me how to upload it and i will.
ReplyDeleteGo to http://www.mediafire.com/
ReplyDeleteClick the big green button "Upload Files to MediaFire"
Choose to register or upload without registering
Point to the file
Wait for it to upload
Copy download link and paste it here
kk, herse the link for beta 38:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediafire.com/?dzgs2nujr3c
big update: things have tooltips, that prolly means its gona be released soon
also... why does drow have +109 dmg at lvl25 *without* items o.o
You r the best keep posting new betas
ReplyDeletewhat i see so far:
ReplyDelete-Kunkka has been renamed Daelin Proudmoore the Admiral
-Tidebringer now scales up to 500 range, starts at 380->420->460->500
-Heart now gives +1% Hp regen (maybe I missed this before?)
-Dirge and Storm Spirit have tooltips for all spells
Uhm..Storm's Electric Vortex, while it has Laguna blade's icon (again),it's a mini hook drawing Storm to the enemy and charging overload. Unlike before where it prevents the enemy from escaping.
ReplyDelete@Grasshopper, probably because she has an aura, plus her ulti is pure agi. Since +agi = damage on her, I guess that's how she got +109 naked.
ReplyDelete@Will:
ReplyDelete"-Kunkka has been renamed Daelin Proudmoore the Admiral"
Huh? In which map? The one linked above has him named "Kunkka the Admiral". Maybe Daelin Proudmoore is a "fun" name like "Fuzzy Wuzzy"?
@PaulY:
I'm not sure what you're saying. Electric Vortex still pulls the target to the location at which Storm casted the spell. It doesn't draw Storm to the enemy.
The biggest changes I've seen:
- Dirge is now a STR hero!
- Heart of Tarrasque now gives 1% of your max HP per second instead of +15 HP/s. A HUGE buff! Late game you can expect this to give over +30 HP/s for STR heroes.
As a side note, has anyone been able to jungle with the new Dirge? It's pretty hard. You can no longer expect zombies to tank for you, now you have to tank for your zombies! Even after you max. Tombstone, it still takes a while before you have enough HP that you can reliably tank enough to kill 3 creep camps every 60 seconds. Even then, it's just 3 creep camps every 60 seconds! I guess a lot of creep stacking is necessary now. He's no longer a hero that anyone can jungle with.
@redrach
ReplyDeleteyeah you were right, next time I got in I got captain obvious.
anyway, he is now ____ the Admiral as opposed to ____ the Admiral Proudmoore
-Vanguard now gives 300 hp instead of 250.
ReplyDelete-Basher's bash chance on ranged units have been nerfed back to 10% (meele chance is still 25% tho).
-Avatar of Vengeance Terror skill has been replaced by Terror Wave, does the same thing except for that it is now in waveform instead of hitting everyone close to her. Still sucky stats tho.
-Color tint on Lion is back.
@anonymous
ReplyDeleteThe old terror skill, did it have damage reduction? At level 4, the new skill reduces enemy damage by 20% + the - armor.
@red
Sorry, I was pressing G instead, realized that I was using grapple instead of Vortex.
DOTA 6.58 BETA 38
ReplyDeletehttp://rs42.rapidshare.com/files/181518229/dota6.58beta38map.rar
I'm hoping to see some DarkSeer, THD, Pugna changes.
ReplyDeleteIncrease THD stun by 0.5secs atleast would be good.
ReplyDeletewho is THD?
ReplyDeleteTHD = Twin Headed Dragon.
ReplyDeleteAnd I agree that it would be nice to see those three slightly buffed.
But I'd rather see garbage heroes like Sniper remade.
Why was Vengeful's Terror buffed anyway? She's always been a pretty decent hero.
Vanguard already gave 300 hp.
ReplyDeleteDrow has +109 with no items, because of +20 from stats, +45 from ult and 28% from her aura(which results in +44).
Terror was buffed, because it sucked.
Terror was an okay skill on a good hero. I'm not angry that it's been changed (In fact, I think the new skill is pretty cool), it's just that I wish IceFrog would focus on heroes that need it more first.
ReplyDeletejust use the other link posted by grasshopper... there it needs no password
ReplyDelete@Pauly: It reduced damage by 5/10/15/20% before as well.
ReplyDeleteTerror has been buffed yes, but it still feels weak.
psw: idota
ReplyDeletewho's skill was remade?
ReplyDeleteOmG nerf riki please.. Or buff sentry wards.. Every game is screwed by riki now =(
ReplyDeleteWHeat, Riki has been nerfed, check the map. His agility gain has lost a whopping 0.7 points and is now only 2.2. That's 17 less agility at level 25, which is 17 less damage and 17 less backstab damage.
ReplyDeleteNot sure if it's enough though. Will need to play vs. him in a pub to tell for sure.
OMG copied beta 38 map from dota-utilities.com and commenting that he is copying
ReplyDeleteFaggot..
shame on you for copying beta 38 map idiot !!
ReplyDeleteDirge's Parasite, has been replaced with Soul Rip.
ReplyDeleteMKB mini stun chance from 30% to 35%
ReplyDeleteEul Scepter of Divinity recipe from 800 to 600
ReplyDeleteMaelstrom now requires "Claymore", not "Mithril Hammer".
ReplyDeleteYou're mistaken. Maelstrom uses Claymore since 6.57. It's not new.
ReplyDeleteMap should be out soon guys. Check out IceFrog's blog:
ReplyDeletewww.icefrog.com
Dota-Allstars Beta 38 via Rapidshare
ReplyDeletepass: idota
-Morphling's waveform no longer makes him unclickable, just invulnerable.
ReplyDelete-Neutral Ogre Magi will cast frost armour again.
-Heart regen doesn't seem to stack.
The new waveform is a huge change and it's absolutely awesome.
ReplyDeleteYou're now invulnerable, so you can no longer die during waveform from things like bloodseeker's ult or triggered AoE spells and you don't lose control of the hero, so he no longer starts attacking a random creep after waveforming, but instead what you ordered with Shift queue or during waveform. Just swesome.
Terror wave has a huge casting range and AoE.
ReplyDeleteShadow Priest's Weave has 2000 range, but that's an old change.
zomg copy frm dota utilities
ReplyDeleteJust a quick reply for those accusing me copying.. I didn't copy anything from that site. If you watch the comment, you'll see that i got the map from Grasshopper. And one more things, i always give the credits to person/website giving usefull things to me. And i'm pretty sure all my reader know this. And next time, don't use anonymous identity to accuse somebody, be gentle please.. If there's thing that i use from othes site accidentally/without my knowing, feel free to drop a comment here with the source link and i will gladly put the credits if i indeed use it :)
ReplyDeletewarm regards,
alief
what is the tint thing in lion?
ReplyDelete@ alief: we got your back, don't worry about it
ReplyDelete@ goldlike: in earliar betas his chest was a brighter red, looks like its gone now
Looks like the new map is going to be released soon!!!
ReplyDeleteCan't wait for it!
--> www.icefrog.com
hey alief , don't worry about that anonymous idiot that is saying ( spamming ) that you are copying from dota-utilities , he is probably the admin / owner of dota-shitlities.
ReplyDeleteAnd as a matter of fact he copied the info and changelogs from your site , also the map / changelog appeared here way before than on dota-utilities...
shame on dota shitlities , hell yeah...
6.58 out already at www.getdota.com
ReplyDeletefinally i'm back
ReplyDeleteofficial 6.58 now available
Yay!
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDelete@Pauly: It reduced damage by 5/10/15/20% before as well.
ReplyDeleteTerror has been buffed yes, but it still feels weak.
who's skill was remade?
ReplyDeleteVictor said...
ReplyDeleteDOTA 6.58 BETA 38
http://rs42.rapidshare.com/files/181518229/dota6.58beta38map.rar
January 10, 2009 10:39 AM
Hey,There is a psw to extract dota 6.58 beta 38...Any1 noes the pass?
You really shouldn't do this
ReplyDeleteWhy would you do something against Icefrog wants? Especially when he's done so much for you guys.
1. He tells us to PLEASE don't leak the beta map.
2. You like dota alot and play it alot.
3. You just leak the map anyway.
WOW. Unbelievable.
@omg:
ReplyDeleteIt's not about stealing information Icefrog wants to hide. He is not sitting at home whining all the day since some1 told us how the Beta looks like. It is simply the fact that Icefrog cannot show the beta officially because there are many bugs inside, tooltips are missing, some sort of stuff is unbalanced (just like the missing item from 6.57beta) and above all the not- that-loyal-fans are complaining about those facts. They would never accept the beta. They rather would say, DotA gets worth and worth. But Icefrog has a magic weapon against those blames: The beta is not official. You shouln't use it!
SO, who are you? One of those who are complaining after visiting a blog with leaked information?
Please ... no one wants to hear it.
Techies renamed to Squee spleen and spoon
ReplyDeleteLion had his tint removed
You guys are pathetic. Icefrog doesn't want to show the beta maps to the public, if you like Dota that much you should at least respect his will. Gtfo and wait for the public version or apply at http://getdota.com/contact/contact_type/BetaSignup if you want to see the new map in progress.
ReplyDeleteThey changed the icon for Panda's Thunder Clap. It looks like a paw now.
ReplyDeleteshouldn't have changed storm panda's third skill .. he'll need a lot of mana to win a game ..
ReplyDeleteby the way, where can i find a cracked frozen throne world editor ? .. i cant use the DOTA theme manager without it right ? ..
salamat .. thanks .. ! :)
Heh now the storm spirit looks much weaker than before..Dont understand why IceFrog Has to remake o.O
ReplyDeleteHaven't done much checking, Icefrog doesn't seem to care much for changing tooltips in beta releases so some changes are kinda hard to notice but here are some changes to add to your changelog:
ReplyDeleteSilencer's CotS is now an AoE spell with 250 AoE. Have no hero to test it on so Im not sure but I guess it's the same old CotS but in AoE form so that you can curse multiple heros at once.
Changed icon on LVL Death (Fire Lord's Soul Burn icon). Since it can only be used on heros I don't know if it has been changed in any other way, but it probably hasn't.
hi alief!!!
ReplyDeletedo you know when will the next AI map will be release??
i just want to play a new and improve AI on the next ai map... if you have some idea pls make a blog about this.. thank you btw very nice site you have
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=12f21b2c26fe4390d2db6fb9a8902bda
ReplyDeleteAtropos (Bane Elemental) isn't seen much in higher level games. Compared to other int ganker/support heroes, he needs too much farm to overcome his mana deficiency and be effective. Remember, he can't tank or carry, so he shouldn't be stealing creep kills from his allies.
ReplyDeletePlus his ultimate cost way too much for what it did. A channeling single-target disable that drains mana and hit-points and stops if you run out of mana? Stupid. Why pick him when you can pick Enigma or Magnataur and disable the whole team?
Bane DOES need a buff. He's a strong hero, but just not strong enough to be a pick. Nightmare is a sleep spell and the target wakes up on hitting them as well as his ultimate being practically the channeling version of Beastmaster's Roar that is a shit load more expensive. Stunners and mini-stunners are used a whole lot in high level games making it impossible for Bane to channel long enough. Hell, Rhasta's normal shackles move has a channeling stun for just as much time.
ReplyDeleteAlso Bane's spells are incredibly expensive and his Brain Sap has a 20 s cooldown. Bane just need slight buffs for him to be a much more chosen pick. At the moment, if you need heroes that could stun, most people would just pick someone like Lion, or for an ulti stun, use Beastmaster instead.
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